02 – Fire from Heaven

Last Edited & Updated : June 14th, 2018

14 thoughts on “02 – Fire from Heaven”

johnpannozzi says:

August 21, 2015 at 1:35 am

Where do the stories from WildStorm! #1-4 go?

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1. bryanjose says:
  
  August 25, 2015 at 5:54 am
  
  “WildStorm” 4 is listed above and “WildStorm” 1 – 3 are in the “Wildstorm Rising” section. As far as I know, this way they can be read w/o pulling all the stories out. I’ll find out upon re-read, but they should be good where I’ve listed them.
  
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johnpannozzi says:

August 21, 2015 at 1:56 am

I also think putting the Big Bruisers one-shot somewhere around here wouldn’t hurt.

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1. bryanjose says:
  
  August 25, 2015 at 5:54 am
  
  Cool, I still haven’t picked this up, but I’ll start looking!
  
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gfsdf gfbd says:

September 22, 2015 at 8:00 pm

Just finished this part of the order, and generally speaking, nice job. Two things:

1) The letters page of Deathblow #26 [http://postimg.org/image/4hfv2f40d/] outlines the tight continuity of the previous few months of Team 7 crossovers pretty well, and your guide does a good job of filling in the appropriate gaps. It reads fine the way you have it, but I was wondering if you had any specific reasons for shuffling the issues around. You have Gen13 #6-7 placed before Deathblow #20-21 instead of afterward. You have Gen13 #8-9 before WildC.A.T.s #25 instead of before Deathblow #23. You have Wetworks #15 take place before Deathblow #20 and not after Deathblow #23. You have Stormwatch #34 prior to Deathblow #23 and not between Backlash #16 and 17.

Again, it read fine the way you have it. I’m just curious why you chose to shuffle things around a bit.

2) You have a few Gen13 odds and ends thrown in this section that spoil revelations about Burnout’s family revealed in the Fire from Heaven Crossover. These include: Gen13: Interactive #1-3, Gen13: Magical Drama Queen Roxy #1-3 (funny stuff, btw), Gen13: Wired, and Gen13 Annual 1997.

Gen13: Wired has a “see Gen13 #18” note on the last page so maybe these should be placed somewhere around there in the New Horizons section?

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1. bryanjose says:
  
  September 23, 2015 at 3:27 pm
  
  First, thanks, glad things worked pretty well!
  
  1. Based on that “Deathblow” order, I originally had read it like that, but it was either a story telling flow or a few things being impossible to happen in the background that caused me to tweak it. I’ll have to get back to that after work today and review the issues, but there was a good reason for swapping a few things around, at least when I did that several months ago as I read through them. Off the top of my head, I know that I placed “Gen13” 6 – 7 before “Deathblow” 20 because it seemed like the kids went straight from the Coda Island to Rome without stopping back in America at all, so I wanted them going from Rome to American and then meeting up with Deathblow in his book. If I recall “Gen 13” 8 – 9 take place back in California, and in that book Lynch gets a call from Cray or Cole that he’s needed in New York and the whole team goes. Cray and Cole are talking about the mission they’ll go on in “WildCATs” 25, and Grunge is in the background of one shot trying to get served (and turned down) at Clark’s Bar. Gen13 kind of appears out of nowhere in “Deathblow” 24 so I just figured they were already in New York when Grunge took off to try and score a beer. “WildCATs” 25 and “Deathblow” 24 take place at roughly the same time, the only reason I put “WildCATs” first is that I liked keeping that Grunge sight gag in continuity a bit more. Oh, and the “Wetworks” stuff is a mess, so splitting up issue 15 between the 2 stories in 14 makes stuff work better. I mean, we see Dane start to work w/ Cray in NYC and then suddenly he’s back with Wetworks for a single training exercise before being back with Cray in NYC like he never left? Didn’t make a lot of sense to me in the narrative.
  
  2. Dammit! This is what happens when I come to across these side issues later and forget when a few things, like Bobby’s parents are revealed! Looks like I’ll have to find a good place for some of those books. The big problem is trying to find where, as they mostly take place in La Jolla, CA when Lynch is still around. “Interactive will have to move, which also means that “Wired” will have to move as well. “Wired” is a troubled book because it was published so far after when it could’ve happened, as Gen13 were currently in the Florida Keys being mentored by Alex Fairchild when it came out. I’ll have to double check with “Magically Queen Roxy” as I don’t remember too much actual continuity affecting that book. I put the 1997 Annual there because I figured a good place for it would be was on their way from the Coda island to Rome, but if there’s spoilers, eh, I’m gonna have to find a better place. Either the “Shattered Image” or “New Horrizons” sections may indeed work better.
  
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Tarn says:

December 7, 2016 at 6:30 pm

I think Allegra goes in here somewhere

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1. bryanjose says:
  
  December 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm
  
  I agree… I just need to finish the series and find the right place to plug it in. It too me a bit of time to find that series to be honest, so it wasn’t part of my initial read through/mapping.
  
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Maxime Boucher says:

November 3, 2017 at 10:04 am

I have everything on this list except Black Ops. Is it a continuity heavy title or something I can skip?

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1. bryanjose says:
  
  November 3, 2017 at 10:50 am
  
  No, no need to read it at all. Feel free to skip it! “Black Ops” is even an odd fit here, to tell the truth. But the first 2 issues take place while Miles Craven is still alive, and the last 3 issue take place after his passing. I’ve toyed with moving those issues after “Deathblow” v1 #25 to be closer to the first 2, but it kind of kills the momentum that whole line is building to. It might be best to read “Black Ops” before you get to “DV8 vs. Black Ops” so you know the characters, but if I recall it isn’t necessary. “Black Ops” is kind of one of those books that didn’t make a big impression on the WSU landscape but was none the less tied into its world, more like “Psi-Tech” and “the Patriots.”
  
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johnpannozzi says:

April 14, 2020 at 1:21 pm

Why isn’t “THE LONE ONE: A TALE EVERY VAMPIRE KNOWS” series of back-up stories from “Wetworks” volume one issues 7, 9, 10 and 11 listed here?

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1. bryanjose says:
  
  April 14, 2020 at 4:40 pm
  
  Honestly, because I kinda like having that as a bit of an Easter Egg for the type of folks that’ll follow the links at the bottom of each entry to the next. I know that’s not “proper” but it’s kinda fun, right?
  
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anon says:

April 1, 2024 at 10:26 pm

i think deathblow #24 needs to be listed before backlash #16 since backlash #16 references it

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1. radleyjphoenix says:
  
  April 12, 2024 at 3:19 pm
  
  At the end of “Deathblow” #24 Backlash and Grifter are with the rest of Team 7 ready to break into IO HQ, in “Backlash” #16 he’s in Colorado and is in a barfight where Grifter shows up. Issue #18 of “Backlash” it says that Backlash is heading to meet up w/ Team 7 in “Deathblow” #25, but he already met up w/ the team in the final pages of issue #24 of “Deathblow”. So no, it would not track at all to have “Backlash” #16 after “Deathblow” #25 in my eyes.
  
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